Lol fck thats confusing.. Did you say you like burning money?
No, that's my way of saying I've been trying to get this engine tuned.Lol fck thats confusing.. Did you say you like burning money?
P, the one system I have stuck with is the Zipper's Kit: RedShift 575 cams, their CNC head work, their 818 map, and their tuner. The only thing I currently have different on my setup than what they offer in their kit is that I have the Bassani exhaust instead of the D&D exhaust that they recommend.
All that is getting me is 87 HP. The stock XRs in the V&H race series do better than that with nothing but pipes a decent tune.
My XR does not run like crap, by any means, but it is certainly running below expectations. I just want it to run like it should and be done with it.
On one hand I agree with the Goo Man, as Hilary would say, "does it really matter?"Joe, this is irrational. Stop! Put down the tools and step back. Take a deep breath, in through the nose...deeper....deeper.....now hold it.....okay, exhale slowly through your mouth.. Repeat two more times. Feel better? Good! Namaste. :yinyang:
You are getting hung up on the dyno print out...Dude, that means nothing...it's just lines on paper... Fuhgedaboudit!
You have no overheating issues...your bike is running clean and responsive....I see you are getting over 41 miles to a gallon...you are making nearly 90 HP.... A lot of people on here would love to have that problem.
It's a good thing OctoDon has so many hands!On one hand I agree with ...
that he didn't already have!Joe, this is irrational. Stop!
..... Remember, Oz never gave nothing to the tin man...
Aside from that week that I tried the SEPST, the T-Max has been the only tuning device on the bike since getting the Zipper's kit. I have put maybe 8000 miles on the bike since then, running auto tune about every month or two - because that's all I know how to do.And, I dont remember you sticking with the TMax for any length of time. It seems you were trying AFR and timing changes before autotune had a chance to dial in the original map.
I can't find anyone that knows Harley engines that tunes with the TTS.And, proper tuning with the TTS or SEPST would give you similar results. And a good tuner who can tune with SEPST, would have no problem with TTS. A poor tuning shop won't get you results no matter what they use.
You, sir, have a lot of hands, but that's the hand I am concerned with at the moment.ST said:Now on the third hand, I'd be pretty pissed off if I spent that much squash on heads, cams and multiple tuning devices etc. and was still making no better power than say Streettrackers stock motor with the mighty Anvil pipe and a lowly PTF tuner (That bike made right at 86 when corrected to DynoJet correction factor, with a big fat torque curve)
Off Hand, no I don't have an email, but you can CALL THEM Toll Free: 800-992-4993 (USA only)Does anyone have an email address of someone I can contact at Power Commander? I would contact them myself using their forum, but our servers over here obviously think there is some sort of virus on their website, so I can't get to it.
I think I should ask them if they need the original XR file for their product to work (like the SEPST needs).
Joe,LOL - this thread is getting comical, but I still don't know which ECM should go back onto the XR for the Power Commander V.
Aside from that week that I tried the SEPST, the T-Max has been the only tuning device on the bike since getting the Zipper's kit. I have put maybe 8000 miles on the bike since then, running auto tune about every month or two - because that's all I know how to do.
I can't find anyone that knows Harley engines that tunes with the TTS.
The only place that I know of that tunes with the SEPST is my local dealership. When the local dealership's tuning guy started wheeling the XR into the dyno room, I held out my papers with all of the timing tables on it from the T-max (that was before you had told me that the two timing tables were not related). He asked, "What's that for?" I told him because I had different cams and heads, and it would give him a base to start from. He said he was going to use the map that H-D had and gave me a dumb look when I asked how long it would take him to adjust that map for timing.
Looking at this crappy dyno result, he didn't touch the timing.
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I tried getting the SEPST to work for a few days in one of those threads that Magoo had going (back when you first started posting again), then gave up and put the T-Max back on.
You, sir, have a lot of hands, but that's the hand I am concerned with at the moment.
I don't really have much left that I want done to the bike except have it running tip top.
Tip Top Running Condition is what I'm looking for right now, and I've got tunnel vision.
Does anyone have an email address of someone I can contact at Power Commander? I would contact them myself using their forum, but our servers over here obviously think there is some sort of virus on their website, so I can't get to it.
I think I should ask them if they need the original XR file for their product to work (like the SEPST needs).