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“All the Gear All the Time”
I’m guilty. As a young man I rode an enduro around in tennies, shorts and an open face helmet. Maybe age has something to do with it but once I began commuting every day it was ATGATT. Watching all the cars do their crazy stunts keeps you mindful that you could be picking yourself up off the ground at any time. I started commuting on an Adventure bike so crossover dirt bike gear was the norm. 3 season, multi layer, baggy stuff. After I moved to the XR and had the gift of commuting through the Angeles National Forest on some of the best motorcycling roads in the country I began to “hang it out” a little. That’s when I really started thinking. I’m sticking my knee out there and I don’t know where the knee pad is. There’s a pocket in there with a quality energy absorbing pad in it but with the loose pants who knows where it’s going to be if I need it. That and having read and seen pictures of the vented fabric,” Polytanium” or whatever creative name for plastic they can think of, melts at a very low temperature. Much lower than the temp that the friction between the cement roadway and the human body creates. Pictures of guys with their jackets melted to their arms came to mind.
——That’s when I took a page from the racer’s book and went with leather. A two piece for practicality on the street but able to be zipped together. I found out that this is an important feature and required by must race tracks. Knee, elbow, and shoulder pads held close to the body so they’re there when you need them. And a back pad. My suit came with a weak ass attempt at protection. A thin foam job in such an odd shape that there wasn’t anything like it in a higher quality unit. I had to find something with enough surface area that I could trace the shape on and cut it out myself.
——The helmet. There’s many opinions on the matter. The better you protect your head, the less chance you have for injury. Period. Face included. Helmets cost in the range of $1000.00 now. Crazy.
——Visibility. I’ve been wearing a HiVis vest with reflective stripes and have been told, by the medic on a job, that she saw me waaaaaaaaay up the road in the dark. Good to know that it works.
——Recently I found out how well all this stuff works and even with all the gear on the human body can only take so much before breaking so I thought I’d start a thread for people to post about what people put on to make them feel safe.(as safe as possible). I don’t know that I would change anything I wear to ride. We should consider an airbag vest but I don’t know enough about them.
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the back pad worked
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NGWIFFLI
I tried for a bit but couldn't think of what it means.

Pee-Wee- "Is this something you can share with the rest of us Amazing Larry?"
NGWIFFLI
I tried for a bit but couldn't think of what it means.

Pee-Wee- "Is this something you can share with the rest of us Amazing Larry?"
Sorry. I left out the other F…..NO GEAR WHEN I FUCKING FEEL LIKE IT!
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So you’re a NGWIFFLI man. No Gear When I Feel Like It. 😝
Well statistically speaking, gear is a bad bet! I've only ever gone down when wearing it - so clearly it is much safer without it! ;)
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So you’re a NGWIFFLI man. No Gear When I Feel Like It. 😝
Up until 1992, it was optional to wear a Helmet. in California.

I was like that in 1974 ( 48 years ago this month of May) .
I had burnt out the rectifier on my Honda 500, thanks to dropping a wrench on my battery negative and positive cables.

My Friend Eugene, stopped by and offered to give me a ride on his motorcycle to the Dealer 6 miles away.
It was a warm day about 85F 29C I did not feel like wearing my Helmet, jacket or gloves.
I felt it would be hot riding as a passenger behind with him blocking the cooling air.
I was wearing my riding boots , jeans and a T shirt.
I said to Eugene "it too hot, should I wear a Helmet ".
Eugene said " You should wear a helmet and jacket and gloves"
I put on my gear.and took off to the Dealer.

On the way home we got off the exit that loops around under the freeway overpass which is a blind right hand down
hill corner.
A car coming up the hill towards us make a U turn in front of us. We slammed it the side of the car.

I was knocked unconscious. My Premier Full face helmet did its Job. I had a chipped lower right incisor tooth.
My leather gloves did it job. I was holding onto the passenger grab rail that has an exposed bolt head nearby.
My left hand glove was slit down across the palm area. No cuts on my hands.
My Faux leather jacket was ripped across the back. No road rash.
My jeans had a rip in it right knee area. My right knee was scrapped up. No road rash any where on my legs.

When we slammed into the car, I hit Eugene helmet with my helmet which knocked both of us out.
The force of my body slammed Eugene into his Honda gas tank (crushed it like a beer can), the motorcycle landing
on his right leg breaking it. Eugene was in traction for 12 weeks?

I cartwheeled across the car spraining my back, both ankles and breaking a bone in my left foot. I also bruised my Kidneys. I had red pee for 24 hours, which had my mom was worried. I told my Mom it happen a lot to Desert riders
that why they wore Kidney Belts. I was laid up for 4 weeks

This accident happened 2 block from my house.
Since then I wear a Helmet Hot or Cold weather.








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Shudder to think what your injuries would have been like without the gear on, Jim. Given the LOC for both of you despite both of you wearing helmets, I'd say a skull fracture, guaranteed, +/- cerebral trauma & bleeding. Even in an open face helmet you'd likely have had facial injuries by the sound of the chipped tooth. You certainly made the right call that day. A sobering story.

J.
Which helmet would you wear?
——A 7 year old $200 plastic shell KBC or a recently hit on the ground $600 Shoei X-12?
I know both helmets should be retired, one from age and one from”use” but I don’t have the $1000 for the helmet I want today. Maybe tomorrow. Famous last words.
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DO NOT wear the crashed helmet. it has already done it's job, and may be compromised. The 7 year old is definitely expired, but likely in better shape. Unless you know for sure that the Shoei is not impact damaged, you shouldn't rely on it. JMHO

I was knocked unconscious while wearing an Arai. I came to with people shining flashlights in my face, so I was out for a minute. I was able to get back on the bike and ride home, but I never wore that helmet again.
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That that Shoei and make a birdhouse out of it.
Helmets are a one time use only.
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I have mentioned this before, but look into Kali Protectives. They build their helmets for the fall. They are going to make new styles, and are having a clearance on them. Check them out. I bought a new Carbon earlier this year, and it vents very well too. Might be in your price range rather than going back to an outdated helmet. The liners are removeable, and cleanable. I can't say enough about how much I believe in this company. Don't let the sale price scare you as they are not cheaply made.


They are near Gilroy Area of CA.
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Yt, tend to agree- better the intact $200 cheapo than the $600 but damaged Shoei. Check out the Hurt Report from many years ago. I think its still online somewhere. Professor Harry Hurt published a groundbreaking and comprehensive report back in the '70's on factors influencing injury & death vs. survival in motorcycle accidents in California. It was put together on the basis of thousands of bike accident investigations and data analysis of them. One of his many findings was that any helmet, even a $10 generic no name, was much better than no helmet as long as it was undamaged. Of course helmet tech has come a long way since then and helmets are much better scienced in design, construction and testing these days. But a constant is- don't use a helmet after it has taken a big hit. All the manufacturers say so. If you fell a second time on the same impact point of the first hit, it could be a traumatic brain injury for you or worse, not that TBI isn't bad enough. I've seen a number and they are the pits, a terrible outcome. You had bad luck being a part of that wreck but brilliant luck coming out of it so well. So give your Shoei a second life as a pot plant holder and go with the KBC until you can afford a quality helmet. Unlike some of our organs, you only get one brain.

J.
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Thank you fellows. KBC it is.
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At least get a tinted visor on that thing.
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At least get a tinted visor on that thing.
Sorry. They definitely look cool. I just don’t use them. Most of my riding is in the dark
I’ll tell you what though. Whoever figured out the gear thingy, spring loaded push the button release the shield mother fukker is a gosh darn genius!
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I agree once you figure it out it’s genius.
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